Tulong Zizhu told Chang Yang who had come to learn archery under him a story that contained principles of archery in it: the king of the state of Chu once hunted in Yun Mengze. A stopped dear ran out to his left, the king aimed an arrow at it and just before letting the arrow go, an elk appeared to his right. When he was about to shoot the elk, a swan flew by. The king was totally lost as to which one to shoot.

Yang Youji, a master of archery, came over to the king and said, "If a leaf is put a hundred paces away, I can shoot it ten times without missing it. If ten leaves are there, I am not sure if I can still do it."

屠龙子朱对前学习射箭的常羊讲了一个蕴含射箭道理的小故事：楚王在云梦泽打猎，左边跑出一只梅花鹿，楚王张弓搭箭，刚想射，发现右边又跑出来一只麋鹿。当他准备射麋鹿时，头顶的天空中有一只天鹅飞过，一时之间，楚王不知该射什么好。

神箭手养由基见了，上前对楚王说：“如果把一片树叶放在百步以外，我能够射十箭中十箭，如果放十片树叶，能否射中，我一点把握也没有。”