501
You're very frank, Clarice.

502
I think it would be quite something
to know you in private life.

503
Quid pro quo, Doctor.

504
So tell me about Miss West Virginia.
Was she a large girl?

505
- Yes.
- Big through the hips? Roomy?

506
- They all were.
- What else?

507
She had an object deliberately
inserted into her throat.

508
Now, that hasn't been made public yet.
We don't know what it means.

509
Was it a butterfly?

510
Yes. A moth.

511
Just like the one we found
in Benjamin Raspail's head an hour ago.

512
Why does he place them there, Doctor?

513
The significance of the moth is change.

514
Caterpillar into chrysalis, or pupa,

515
and from thence into beauty.

516
Our Billy wants to change, too.

517
There's no correlation between
transsexualism and violence.

518
- Transsexuals are very passive.
- Clever girl.

519
You're so close to the way you're
gonna catch him, do you realise that?

520
No. Tell me why.

521
After your father's murder you were
orphaned. What happened next?

522
I don't imagine the answer is
on those second-rate shoes, Clarice.

523
I lived with my mother's cousin and her
husband in Montana. They had a ranch.

524
- Was it a cattle ranch?
- Sheep and horses.

525
- How long did you live there?
- Two months.

526
- Why so briefly?
- I ran away.

527
Why, Clarice? Did the rancher
make you perform fellatio?

528
Did he sodomise you?

529
No. He was a very decent man.

530
Quid pro quo, Doctor.

531
Billy is not a real transsexual.
But he thinks he is. He tries to be.

532
He's tried to be a lot of things, I expect.

533
You said that I was very close to the way
we would catch him. What did you mean?

534
There are three centres for
transsexual surgery: Johns Hopkins,

535
the University of Minnesota
and Columbus Medical Centre.

536
I wouldn't be surprised if Billy had applied
for sex reassignment at all of them

537
and been rejected.

538
On what basis would they reject him?

539
Look for severe childhood disturbances
associated with violence.

540
Our Billy wasn't born a criminal, Clarice.

541
He was made one through years
of systematic abuse.

542
Billy hates his own identity, you see,

543
and he thinks
that makes him a transsexual.

544
But his pathology is
a thousand times more savage

545
and more terrifying.

546
It rubs the lotion on its skin.
It does this whenever it's told.

547
Mister, my family'll pay cash. Whatever
ransom you're asking for, they'll pay it.

548
It rubs the lotion on its skin
or else it gets the hose again.

549
Yes, it will, Precious. It will get the hose.

550
OK, OK.